The Phaedo captures the final stage of Socrates’s life in Plato’s words. In it, Socrates argues for the immortality of the human soul by explaining the Cycle of Opposites and the Theory of Forms. In the specific passage to be analyzed here, Pages 23-24, lines 73e-74c, Socrates explains the Theory of Recollection and thusly begins to explain the Theory of Forms.
Socrates begins this passage by asserting that a certain object might remind someone of a person, that a picture of a horse or a lyre might remind someone of a friend who rides horses and plays the lyre. (73e) Then the idea narrows itself narrows down so that a picture of a person might remind one of another person, that picture of Simmias might remind someone of Cebes. (73e) Finally,
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However, Socrates refutes his own claim by saying that it is possible that two entities may seem equal to one person, and the same entities may seem unequal to another person, “do not equal stones and sticks sometimes, while remaining the same, appear to one to be equal and to another to be unequal?” (74b) In this case, how is it that these two people have inferred and understood Equality if the concept of Equality is different for every person? Socrates suggests that since these sticks and stones may look equal from one point of view and unequal from another point of view, then we must be inclined to propose that Equality itself is unequal: “Have they [the equals] ever appeared unequal to you, or Equality to be Inequality?” (74c) However, Socrates then comes to the logical conclusion that these two forms of equality/Equality are distinct, distinguishable ideas. “These equal things and the Equal itself are therefore not the same?” (74c) There is an absolute, eternal, and indisputable Equality that is not in this world, of which humans only receive a taste in the form of our mortal equality, whose actual quality of equality is disputable amongst humans. Thus, Socrates goes on to infer that there is non-body state before life from where we have acquired this knowledge. The same intuition that humans have to notice …show more content…
These dialogues are named after the person with whom Socrates speaks; however, it is crucial to notice that Socrates is the active force that drives the conversation and makes claims that are subjective and abstract, but the person with whom he speaks is merely a passive source of affirmation. It is important to notice the responses of each of Socrates’ disciples. The “Yes”s and “πάνυ γε” (73e, “Certainly”) and “Of course”s / “φῶμεν μέντοι νὴ Δί᾽, ἔφη ὁ Σιμμίας, θαυμαστῶς γε” (74a, “Indeed we shall by Zeus, said Simmias most definitely”) each have an inner connotation that which the context illuminates. For example, Ion in Plato’s “Ion” is a dialogue characterized by its ironic and patronizing tones. Here, since Socrates is speaking from his deathbed, anyone surrounded by him will remember and revere his each syllable in order to eternalize his memory. Therefore any affirmations made by the interlocutors in this dialogue, and specifically in this passage, can be interpreted as a solemn and wholehearted agreement with Socrates’ claims.
Socrates often is guilty of modifying his statements in order to make qualifications. For example he uses phrases like “somewhat,” “to some extent,” “perhaps,” etc. These phrases distance him from the ideas that he is conveying through his speech, which
Socrates’ position towards the authorities was inconsistent in The Euthyphro and The Crito. He questioned the authority in The Euthyphro but defended and obeyed it in The Crito. In The Euthyphro, Socrates had a dialog with Euthyphro who claimed to be an expert on the subjects such as holiness, Gods, piety, justice, etc. Socrates began his philosophical debate by asking Euthyphro to define piety and impiety.
Socrates in the dialogue Alcibiades written by Plato provides an argument as to why the self is the soul rather than the body. In this dialogue Alcibiades and Socrates get into a discussion on how to cultivate the self which they both mutually agree is the soul, and how to make the soul better by properly taking care of it. One way Socrates describes the relationship between the soul and the body is by analogy of user and instrument, the former being the entity which has the power to affect the latter. In this paper I will explain Socrates’ arguments on why the self is the soul and I will comment on what it means to cultivate it.
Socrates clearly states, in support of this opinion that that according to Euthyphro’s account,
This could mean that Socrates had understood, or at least on the way to understanding what is the good and how to obtain it. This interpretation also explain Socrates´s behavior, as recounted by Alcibiades. Socrates spend most of his time either thinking(220D), or talking and philosophizing with others(221D, 222E).He seem to show extreme calmness and unrivaled self control( 221B). He does not desire physical beauty, money,power, or anything else that Alcibiades might be interested in(216E), and seem to only be concerned about giving speeches and
In Phaedo Socrates argues that perfect entities can be superior to bodies. An example of this can be knowledge. This is an entity superior to our body because knowledge isn’t something that can be physically destroyed. It is a “thing” within our body that makes up something but isn’t actually there visibly. This is superior to our bodies because knowledge can be limitless, as opposed to bodies you can physically see can have limitations on what the physical body can do.
(199, a~b) The major difference between Socrates’ and Agathon’s concept of Eros was that Agathon claimed Eros to be the god, while Socrates said Eros was a child between god of Resource and god of Poverty, and that Eros serves as an intermediary spirit between gods and mortals. Socrates gets his point across by utilizing the “Socratic Method,” which is done by asking Agathon sequence of questions, so that Agathon feels less certain about his knowledge on
In order to establish my thesis, I will start by stating and explaining the argument that Socrates presents, I will
In the first case, he uses the opposites as a way to show the absolute differences between two things. Socrates shows us that the opposite state of being larger is being smaller and the opposite state of being ugly is being beautiful. The opposite state for being faster is being slower and the opposite state of being weaker is being stronger. Socrates suggests that the adjectives that have an opposite need to have one adjective that occurs before the other. So, for an adjective such as beautiful, it must follow that one must have been ugly before becoming beautiful.
Another thing Socrates is famous for is his twisting of nature in a paradoxical way to serve his own desire to persuade: to Socrates, virtue, wisdom, and eudaemonia are directly linked, a recurring idea in many of his dialogues. His definition of happiness and morality is far different from anyone else’s, especially from Callicles’ and Nietzsche who believes that the law of nature takes over (also perceived this way by Nietzsche). E.R. Dodds mentions the idea that Nietzsche finds a reflexion of himself in Callicles, ascetic Socrates’ most interesting interlocutor in the “Gorgias”. Interesting in the fact that Callicles appears to be a purely hedonistic personage, whose definition of a good life is one where all pleasures of the body are maximised,
“…if I disobeyed the oracle because I was afraid of death: then I should be fancying that I was wise when I was not wise. For this fear of death is indeed the pretence of wisdom, and not real wisdom, being the appearance of the unknown: since no one knows whether death, which they in their fear apprehend to be the greatest evil, may not be the greatest good” (Apology, 29a-29b). This potent statement not only highlights Socrates’ wisdom, it effectively makes use of his belief that he is wise because he knows nothing. By saying that he knows nothing of the afterlife, it gives him the reason to illustrate to his audience that he cannot fear what he does not know.
This quotation is significant because it represents Socrates’ ideas about death. He believes that fearing the unknown is unreasonable because we don’t know what happens after death. Socrates also believes that “being dead is one of two things” (Socrates 58); either you feel nothing at all or it is a “journey from here to another place” (Socrates 59). Fearing something we don’t now is not going to get us anywhere except limit our potential. Although, death is a frightful concept, it might also be a good thing.
However, the number three cannot ever be even for it holds a natural form of oddity that cannot be changed, the same is found with immortality. A soul cannot admit to death, which is the opposite of its essence immortality just as the number three cannot admit to being even. Leading to Plato’s conclusion of how a soul then must have to retreat, connecting back to Socrates believing death is best characterized by the soul separating from
One of the potentially faulty arguments Socrates uses to ponder Thrasymachus’ definition of justice involves considering injustice within a single person. In other words, this means thinking about conflict within an individual’s “soul”. In his treatment of Thrasymachus’ position that
Plato’s idea of recollection is that us humans were all born already possessing some sort of knowledge. Although, the theory is that we have forgotten this knowledge, and the only way we can recollect this knowledge is by discovering it again somehow. He is trying to say that our souls once knew everything we needed to know, but once it entered a body it forgot everything it once knew. This theory implies that nothing we know is ever learned, but that everything we know is remembered or we somehow recall that once known information. He also believed that we are all born with senses, meaning that we can somehow inner channel the things we once knew before, example being that most people know right from wrong without being taught it.
Appreciation of Philosophy Essay #2 Socrates vs. Sophists Believing Socrates was a Sophist can be a common misconception in Greek history. Although they have similarities, such as moving in the same circle, teaching, and having the same subject matter, there are only two given differences that set them apart. The fact that Socrates looked for objective truth through dialectic, while the Sophists believed in relative truth and taught that through rhetoric, clearly separates them. Questioning if Socrates was a Sophist is not an unintelligent question at all.