a. Socrates suggests that to achieve justice, all citizens must accept and comply with “the myth of the metals.” This is the idea that all men are born with different contents of metal in their souls that determine the class and occupation they ought to abide by. The Craftsmen/producers are born with bronze and iron in their souls, the Guardians and Auxiliaries with silver, and the Philosopher Kings with gold. b. What are in your view the claims made in this passage? Minimally identify at least two claims, if you can find three that would be better for recognizing if there is an argument. 1. One claim that this passage suggests is that men by nature are born to unequal status. 2. Another claim that the myth of the metals makes, contradicts …show more content…
Passage 2: Is it better to be just or injust b. What are in your view the claims made in this passage? Minimally identify at least two claims, if you can find three that would be better for recognizing if there is an argument. 1. One of the Claims made by Thrasymachus is that Justice is “nothing more than the advantage of the stronger.” In other words, being just is essentially useless because just actions only works to the advantage of others. 2. …a just man always gets less than an unjust one (343 d).” 2.) Adiemantus advocates the claim that injustice is better by noting that as long as the person who is unjust appears to be just, they can reap all the benfits of justice (such as honor and a good reputation) 363 3. Socrates makes the claim that injustice is not virtue because it contradicts wisdom which is a virtue. c. In 5-7 sentences say which of the three claims is central. How does the speaker support this main claim? Is his argument convincing/valid? Do you agree with the argument, or are there any objections that you may …show more content…
Socrates makes that claim that injustice cannot be more valuable then justice because Injustice is contrary to wisdom. To prove this, he makes the analogy that one who has a specific skill does not seek competition or tries to beat out others with the same skill by noting: (Justice is the adherence to certain rules which enable a group to act in common- in order to reach theses goals( that are desiable ) one needs to be moderately just in the sense of adhering to this set of rules) “In any branch of knowledge or ignorance, do you think that a knowledgeable person would intentionally try to outdo other knowledgeable people or say something better or different than they do, rather than doing or saying the very same thing as those like him? (350)” While this claim seems to persuade Thrasymachus, I remain unconvinced. Why would one buy a product from Target when Wal-Mart has the same product at a lower price? By having lower prices, Wal-Mart makes the better profit and beats out the competition- which is undoubtedly the knowledgeable route to