What Does Conrad Mean With Out From There

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What does Conrad mean with “in there” and what with “out from there”? Firstly ivory is also in this paragraph written in connection with Kurtz, that means one example of many because you can always read ivory in combination with darkness, Kurtz, religious symbols…I think with “in there” Conrad expresses definitely the jungle and the Congo, because it’s the dark place where ivory is coming out. And of course Kurtz is in there because he brings all the ivory out of the jungle, at least he gives the commands and the blacks are working for him. In the book you can often read that Kurtz is the greatest ivory trader on earth, so I think you can find Kurtz everywhere where you can also find this material. For me it seems that Kurtz and ivory are similarly