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According To Thrasymachus Proposed Statement That Cities Are Unjust

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Thrasymachus’s proposed statement that cities are unjust because the stronger rule the weaker to the advantage of the stronger is false because he, in fact, is arguing the opposite: it is just for the stronger to rule the weaker to the advantage of the stronger(Plato). My first argument for why the above statement is false is Thrasymachus’s claim that justice is the advantage of the established rule. This claim supports my reasoning for why the statement is false because an established rule requires strength; therefore, the advantage of the established rule is in fact the advantage of the stronger. An established rule does not come from the weak, as the weak are unable to impose their will upon the strong, which further enhances the idea that …show more content…

It is clear that the ruling class is the stronger class because authority is required to rule and impose structure on subjects, which the weak are unable to do. From this understanding, the laws and norms placed by the stronger provide an advantage as they are the proponents of the laws, and the weaker are required to obey the laws. According to Thrasymachus’s thesis, the weak obeying the laws enforced by the stronger is just. Therefore, the proposed claim that actual cities are unjust is false, as Thrasymachus claims that justice is the advantage of the established rule and that it is just to obey the laws placed by the ruling …show more content…

Self-control requires the rational part to make sure that the other two parts stay aligned with reason and wisdom, but respecting and considering the appetitive and spirited parts desires. From this understanding, self-control can be accomplished if there is a balance between the three parts of the soul. This balance comes from the rational part of the soul being able to manage the appetitive and spirited needs. Socrates’ account of self-control manages not to be ridiculous as there is a clear understanding that the three parts of the soul must remain in balance with one another to reach

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