Socrates Question Versus Euthyphro The famous Socratic question: Is something holy because it is loved by the gods or is something loved by the gods because that something is holy? This Socratic question not only had Euthyphro puzzled around 470 B.C.E., but many on end are puzzled ‘til this very day. How?
In Plato's Gorgias, it is apparent that Socrates has no desire to be a good statesman as it is defined in the eyes of the Athenians. His calculation is that Athenian rhetoricians place no reliance on facts or truth, nor are these their aim. Instead, they rely on the illusion of knowledge, and this morally weakens both themselves and their audiences. It is clear however, that if he wishes, Socrates is able to match most or all of the other statesmen in Athens, as is clearly indicated by his very eloquent speech which ends the dialogue. Additionally, under his own definition of a good statesman, it is evident that Socrates is more than qualified.
HUM2225 Dr. Hotchkiss September 30, 2016 Moral Insight Plato’s Euthyphro is based on a lesson between Socrates and Euthyphro outside of the Athenian court about the definition of pious or impious. Euthyphro was surprised to see Socrates there and even more curious to find out why he was there. Socrates explained that the court was persecuting him for impiety because Meletus was spreading rumors about him corrupting the Athenian youth. Euthyphro explains to Socrates that he was there to prosecute his father for murdering a farm worker named Dionysus.
Regarding these ideals, it is necessary to analyze Krishna’s actions, Socrates’ daimonion’s actions, and the similarities and differences between the two. A few similarities can be gleaned from these two things, the advice and the daimonion. For example, they are both out of the body. Krishna comes to Arjuna, to contact him and to speak with him directly.
Instead of being perfect omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent gods, they have limited power and influence, and are often driven by humanistic emotions and desires. While the gods do show concern over some mortals, they don’t make decisions solely concerning the wellbeing or interests of the humans, but instead, like the humans themselves, usually act with their own interests at heart. Athena and Poseidon both acts in accordance to their desires and emotions, and have a biased view on particular humans. Unlike the perfect deities we have in mind when we think of the divine, Greek gods are just immortal beings who are just as fallible and imperfect as the humans they preside
For generations there has been a debate of whether injustice or justice exceeds over the other. Is the quality of being fair and reasonable more superior than a lack of fairness or tyranny? I certainly would assume so. However, we are presented with an argument by Glaucon; that an unjust life is more pleasant than a just life. Despite Socrates persuasion in book I, Glaucon is not convinced that a just life is more desirable than an unjust.
On the other hand, the Greek gods are full of anger, always fighting, and constanting harming the people. The people in The Odyssey only cries out to their gods in the time of need. “We flung our arms at Zeus, we wept and cried aloud, looking on at his gripsy work paralyzed, appalled”(331-332). When Oddyssues cried out to the god, he didn't help them, but was full of anger and selfishness. The Greek god is a god who doesn't always hear their prayers and does of his
Socrates started his life as an average Athen citizen. His parents worked, making an honest living. But as Socrates grew up, he began to realize that his mind questioned things and wondered how come no one else questioned the same things or at least think about the answers to the questions that were not answered. So, as his mind kept wandering, he began to acknowledge the questions that were not answered and sought for those answers. He ended up believing and teaching things to other people, whether it went against the way the Athen government or not, he still continued his work.
Part A- Socrates In thinking of Socrates we must recognize that what we have is four secondhand sources depicting him. That of Plato, Xenophanes, Aristophanes, and Aristotle. All having radically different accounts on Socrates and his views. Out of all them we consider Plato’s to be the most possible account, even though we face a problem of different versions of Socrates.
Socrates is quoted as stating, “An unexamined life is a life not worth living” (38 a). Socrates was a founding figure of western philosophy, and a stable for many ideas. He lived in Athens, Greece teaching his students, like Plato, questioning politics, ethical choices, and many other things in Greek society. In the Trial and death of Socrates: Four Dialogues by Plato, it explores the abstract questioning Socrates had towards many of the normal social properties, which led to his trial, resulting in his death. The most important aspects discussed in the dialogues is the questioning of what is pious and impious, what it means to be wise, and good life.
Socrates is known in today’s world as one of the greatest philosophers in history. Searching for the truth about wisdom, Socrates brought many developing ideas to ancient Athens, not just during his life but even after his death. Examining all sides of an argument, convinced that the “unexamined life is not worth living”, Socrates is known for never placing belief into one thought, therefore, causing confusion with even the simplest of ideas and making his opponents angry. Being a revolutionary thinker, he acknowledged the advantages and significance of analyzing secular components as opposed to committing his life to religion. Socrates’ outright rebelliousness toward religion and tradition being the main purpose of life and thought was so
Socrates and Athenian Democracy The Apology of Socrates, as told by Plato, is an essay including Socrates’ speech that he made to a jury while trying to “convince his fellow citizens of his innocence” (Lualdi 62). Socrates was attempting to make the Athenian assembly see the world from his own perspective, as he recounts stories of going to ones who have “reputation[s] of wisdom and [observing]” them (Lualdi 63). He explains his outlook on the world, which therefore explains his actions and teachings. He also comments on Athenian democracy while doing so, pointing out that in his way of thinking, he believes “the word of God… ought to be considered first” (Lualdi 64).
Socrates and Aristotle, despite being related through Plato, are in fact very different people and have many differing theories. Socrates outlook on life was that we 're all inherently good, but we will do bad things on accident. For example, when talking about ignorance, Socrates believes that we do not willingly do anything wrong. We instead have two branches of ignorance: not knowing something and knowing that you don 't know, or not knowing but you think that you do know (Plato, P.561). Aristotle on the other hand, claims that there is a different outlook on the model of ignorance.
“Plato’s philosophy is an attempt to justify Socrates’ belief in the objectivity of moral virtues.” As one of Socrates’ most loyal disciples, Plato’s own philosophy was heavily influenced by Socrates’ own thoughts and teachings. Much of Plato’s philosophy is a direct extension of some of the questions Socrates posed, i.e., Socrates asked what justice is, and Plato explored this question in his own writings. It is Socrates’ code of ethics, however, that most closely corresponds with Plato’s ethics.
1. Briefly describe some (at least four) aspects of Greek culture prior to and at the time of Socrates and Plato. Socrates and Plato were an oral culture. During the time of Plato and Socrates, they were making literacy culture because Socrates and Plato had begun using paper and started writing a lot of things down. They had to speak on everything they experience and wants to keep around, so Plato and Socrates told a lot of stories.
