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Comparing Plato's Symposium By Phaedrus And Aristophanes

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Response Paper 1: Plato’s Symposium Plato’s symposium wad seven speeches, but two that really made me think were from Phaedrus and Aristophanes. Phaedrus has mentioned that love is the oldest god. It is the highest good that tries to guide men. He tries to explain that love is so strong that is even exceeds honor and has the ability to please the gods. Many people have tried to fight for love and by fighting in the name of love the gods are honored. Phaedrus tries to explain that love is what makes people into a real hero. They are fighting for their beloved and will encourage people to get stronger for the people they care about. Love is an unstoppable force that people are even willing to sacrifice themselves for their love. He concludes …show more content…

Love will make you feel courageous even if you are timid or make you feel like you are the strongest person in the world even if you are weak. In the present, there are now more ways we can find love than ever before. I think that that nowadays it is a lot easier to find people and try to look for love. We have technology now that makes it easier to look for loves because we are so caught up in our lives that it makes it difficult in our search for love. I feel like the use of apps and online dating is making people fall in love with each other faster. It makes things feel more spontaneous. For example, you don’t know how the person will be in real life and you go on a date based on their profile. This to me makes it feel very spontaneous because you are taking a chance on the person. The only problem I do see with online dating is that people try to put up a disguise and not really show who they really are to people. They are really concerned with their appearances of the people they want love, just as Phaedrus comment about the opinion of the lover is very high to

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The language in Plato’s symposium and the expression of Sappho’s poetry are similar in that they both deal with homoerotic love. Sappho, the only ancient Greek female author whose work survived, talks from the female point of observation, where as Plato’s work concentrates on the idea of love among males. In spite of the fact that both of their points of view are comparative in courses, for example, their thoughts of physical fascination and want, Plato’s work creates a better understanding of the nature of love then Sappho’s ideas. This understanding will be shown with three arguments and counter- arguments in order to demonstrate the dominance of Plato over Sappho. It will than be concluded with an overview of the main idea and a recap of the three arguments made for Plato.

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All of the speakers speeches about love in the Symposium are important because they each have a unique idea to contribute about what is love and the idea of love. One of the speakers, Pausanias goes after Phaedrus’ speech. When it is his turn to speak he present his speech about love as not a single thing and therefore we shouldn’t praise it since there is more than one. Pausanias states that there are two kinds of love, he claims that since “there are two kinds of Aphrodite, there must also be two loves” (Symposium 13). The first Aphrodite is called Uranian or Heavenly Aphrodite since she is the daughter of Uranus, she is the oldest and has no mother.

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Aristophanes’ major points on love are centered on a myth. According to Aristophanes, a long time ago there were three genders, male, female and androgynous, “…a distinct gender as well as name, combining male and female” (Gill 22). These people had two identical faces on one head and doubled the limbs. The three genders were very strong and eventually tried to attack the gods to gain power. To punish humans for their arrogance, Zeus decided to cut them in half, “I shall now cut each of them into two; they will be weaker…”

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